I think of astrology as a language.
Astrology is a direct and divine language of the Gods — how the cosmos speak to humans and vice versa.
I’m an translator (interpreter), and teacher of this symbolic language.
I’m more arts, than science focused.
While astrology is a language, the charts erected contain many volumes of books with astrological chapters, paragraphs, sentences, and words.
It can take years, or months to read a whole chart — minutes, and seconds to read part of it.
Natal astrology describes the native, and the potential opportunities and challenges they shall face, face, and have faced.
The natal and progressed chart is your operating and repair manual. Every machine enjoys maximum success with one.
The solar return (and other predictive charts) and transits, are your windows of opportunity. They also provide challenges to help you grow and explore the magic of your life, and living.
Synastry (and composite) charts describe the chemistry between two or more people, and the reason for the relationship, as well as the potential opportunities and challenges they shall face, face, and have faced.
Just like the natal and progressed charts — synastry and composite charts, are operating and repair manuals focused on your relationships. Along with a counseling astrologer, skilled in reading charts and therapeutic dialogue, you may enjoy a much faster and clearer repair of your relationship.
— Abella Arthur
Hey, what better time to think about how Mercury (and my Mercury) works in a natal chart than during Mercury Rx!
My Sun and Mercury have home signs (Leo and Virgo), so I’m seen as a strong thinker / communicator. It’s my natural talent.And Aries is on the 3rd so I process information quickly, if I can get it quickly enough. I was considered a scatterbrain (my grade 6 teacher called me that) because I could think faster than I could talk. Yup, I’m a fast speaker and typist.
With a Virgo Mercury (and Aries on the third), I’m a fact hunter. I love the pure truth and knowledge. Combine Aries on the 3rd with Virgo Mercury, and you get an “interrogator” which is similar to (but not exactly like) having Mercury Aries, or Mercury-Mars. Now, from my perspective I’m just trying to get factual information quickly. And if I don’t integrate the Libra side of Aries into the picture, I can appear as pushy or aggressive — hence the “Interrogator” but that’s only if someone has a tendency to look on the negative side of life. My combination, in its neutrality, just says: Wanting to process facts quickly or Fast Facts. And I’ll cut people off from embellishments, and fluffy stuff to get it.
Inside my third house, I only have Chiron. Here are some ways this plays out:
* I’m a fearless communicator for those who can not speak their truth.
* I was wounded about my speech. My grade six teacher calling me scatterbrain.
* I took speech therapy for a lisp (I have a gap tooth) and my father didn’t want me to get surgery to correct it.
* I can wound people with my speech. I’ve been called intellectually dominating, have the ability to cut someone up, and be a hardcore debater. However, I have a high mind (Jupiter & Uranus in Libra) so it’s unlikely I would do that for kicks. I really think I could have been a lawyer.
I have no other celestial objects in Aries, other than Chiron.
Now, I was checking out my friend who has a lot of Aries and Virgo in his chart (including Mercury Aries, and Mars Virgo — he’s really a Mercury-Mars thinker / communicator too) but he doesn’t seem to have any sympathy for my communication challenges. Then again, he’s got Taurus on the 3rd. He likes to take time to process his information (slower talker, thinker)– this, of course, is in direct conflict with his Mercury Aries — who would usually want to process information quickly.
He also has the ability to tear me a new one, but it’s not usually logical or pin pointed enough for me (sorry hun!) so it doesn’t get him far. This makes his Aries (in to win) angry. But thankfully, since he has Taurus on the 3rd it’s similar to Venus-Mercury or Mercury Taurus so he caves and smooths it all over — eventually. ;-)
Going back to my natals, I have Mars in the 7th. My Mercury is colored by Mars so knowing what Mars is doing is very important. It means that I generally have what my partners, associates, and clients may consider “interrogation sessions” — well, my clients would consider it “therapy” ;P. I would rarely (if ever) behave in this way with strangers, people who are not in my inner circle, or people whom I am not trying to help.
If I’m in to win, it’s to win at gaining my own sense of clarity and understanding about a topic. I love being clear. I love clear thoughts. I love knowing things clearly. I have great difficulty being in the fog, and unknown (Pisces).
I love other people sharing clear thoughts. I am in respect, and awe at the clarity of other thoughts — when they rarely shine through (excuse my disdain at lack of clarity). I’m like, “Go you. Sure, I can get behind that”.
I don’t want to sit and process my own thoughts, if your clear thoughts are right in front of me. I’m in for the solution. But I may piggy back off your thoughts, to arrive at new thoughts. It’s all about learning more, moving forward, and getting to the absolute bottom of things.
What sign is your Mercury in? What sign is on your third house cusp? What rules that sign, and what house does that planet reside in?
(Side-note: It’s also interesting to note that Mercury Rx Pisces is currently conjunct Mars! Astrology, got to love it.)
Viva la Sexual Revolution for us older folks: Saturn is entering Scorpio! It’s going to be a big bang (pardon the pun) for the next 2.5 years. Enjoy the ride! LOL
We are now experiencing Uranus Square Pluto. The last time Uranus and Pluto got together, it was a conjunction. During that time, in the 1960’s, a sexual revolution occurred amongst young people.
With Saturn moving into Scorpio for the next 2.5 years (starts October 5th) along with the North Node that is currently in Scorpio, I believe that older people will have sex like they’ve never had before.
How old is old? 29+
It will be extra noticeable for those going through their Uranus opposition Uranus transit as well as Zoomers experiencing their second Saturn return starting in their late fifties.
Regarding Saturn Scorpio, the specifics of how it plays out in your chart is personal; however, this transit also addresses a period of time for the world’s people and supports the generational Uranus-Pluto square theme. Sexual Liberation, even while Saturn is in Scorpio, is not odd. Why? Saturn isn’t just about restrictions and limitations, it’s about maturity and graduation and that comes with gifts and opportunities previously unavailable.
When we’re mature, and can handle all that Saturn can offer — we get it in spades.
Pluto in Capricorn, and Uranus in Aries works well with Saturn in Scorpio along with that NN Scorpio that implies destiny and age.
Not everyone will be effected personally, as was the case in the 60’s, but the world will be made aware of the social changes whether they participate in them or not.
In this video, John Mayer mentions achieving his goals, having to go back home to regroup, stardom, doing some immature interviews, and accepting the lessons and wisdom of Saturn, and accepting the undeniable force of Pluto forcing CHANGE.
Regarding the Rolling Stones interview, he says:
“It was sort of like rocking me into adult. It was a violent crash into being an adult. So for a couple of years it was like figuring it all out.” Sounds Plutonian to me. Actually the Pluto Square Pluto personal transit we go through around the ages of 33-35.
In his own words, he lets us know how he had refused to grow up, Saturn style and why he left the spotlight for two years.
“Go away. Be 33 and 34 instead of 28 for the fourth year.”
“Why not be happy after awhile. You get to a certain age where you prepare yourself for happiness, sometimes you never remember to get happy. So I remembered to get happy.”
As a Libra, he’s quite eloquent even if he says ‘off’ things now and then because he loves to tell the truth — publicly.
I find men who are 34 / 35 get a second wind if they were sleep walking through their Saturn Return or refused to grow up.
Unrelated: John has one of the most popular vocalist’s signature: Sun Conjunct Mercury and while we don’t have his time of birth, it’s probably in the 10th (if he has an interception) or 11th house which would make him a Sagittarius rising and that makes sense to me given his history with women (and his need to publicly SPILL — upside down bowl aspect pattern). I mean, Moon Conjunct Neptune in the 1st would account for why the women he dated felt so fooled.
About Pluto Square Pluto
Transiting Pluto squaring its natal position (Pluto square Pluto) brings on a process of deep psychological change and transformation. Pluto rules the shadow side of us and when it squares itself by transit it brings out whatever is seething in us underneath the surface. In many ways the Pluto square represents a purification process where we can eliminate emotional and psychological toxins held in the body…
I’ve found that for many of my clients the Pluto square is also a time when they are being challenged to purify their motives and the way they express their personal power. This is especially true for those who have Pluto conjunct (within a few degrees) one of their personal planets. For instance, if Sun and Pluto are conjunct in your chart (John Mayer has this!), the Pluto square will also be squaring your Sun. This can be experienced as a real breakdown of your sense of identity (the Sun) and may feel like a part of your self is dying. The Pluto square will also challenge you to more fully “own” your personal power rather than using it in a more manipulative, covert way. By tuning into the purification process of the Pluto square you can begin to experience your power with more integrity.
Saturn demands that you grow up and it looks like Pluto helped Saturn make that happen for John.
Your natal chart is PERFECT; however, you have to ‘work with it / yourself’ and not against. If you don’t, it’s NOT perfect. Change needed. – Abella Arthur
I was having a discussion with a client yesterday about how their son’s chart is perfect if he understands, accepts, and works with energy that isn’t easily tolerated by most other people.
The son has a difficult Mercury placement and his Mercury is in Virgo, like me — same degree even. I totally understand ethics, authenticity, and the truth. Also, about doing the right thing but her son is quite forceful (Pluto) about communication (Mercury) and it causes friction (square) with friends (Pluto in the 11th).
At one point her son said something about a shady practice he saw other students engage in (Pluto in the 11th) and told the Principal about it. The backlash from the other kids was immense once they found out what they were going to lose because of it. This in turn has caused great distress for her son and I was called upon to help sort through it.
I said to my client: If he can do the right thing and live with the consequences of others’ not being happy with that, then it’s all good. He can channel that square into a trine and be in harmony with assertively doing the right thing no matter the likely negative backlash (an activist, judge, and other career types would fight over what my client’s son has because it’s powerful and unsettling to his opponents and oh so true and progressive — Mercury-Uranus contact too). He must also think before he speaks. Weigh the outcome and really look at all the people who will be affected by the unbridled truth.
But if he takes it to heart and gets upset about it, he has a couple of choices: 1. Find other people like him and spend time in places that suit his temperament. Join the Debate Club, Mensa Club, Young Lawyers Club, etc. and channel that energy into areas that welcome that kind of friction while steering clear from the ‘norms’ or 2. Work with Saturn’s people. Work with the Earth. Do the right thing, socially — rather than the right thing, ethically or authentically.
So learn to get along with yourself or learn to get along with others or maybe go Libra style — and do a little of both. :-D
I was grazing the incoming search terms and “oppositions in synastry” came up but unfortunately they didn’t find the blog post they came to read (hint: use the SEARCH feature to the right, at the time of writing this!).
So I’ll take a moment to share more thoughts on that signature.
To simplify, synastry isn’t much different than natal astrology except for the difference that instead of the chart showing your ‘relationship with yourself’, the synastry chart shows a relationship with an external entity (another person or persons).
The conjunction, inconjunction, and opposition all share something in common — a blind-spot of some sort.
An opposition is really just another side of a conjunction and an inconjunction is a maladjusted or poorly constructed opposition.
Oppositions in a natal chart indicate extreme vacillations (see my posts on oppositions) or at least that’s how it can appear to people on the outside.
To you, on the inside, you may find the annoying back and forth, yo-yo dance (that you can’t quite figure out the steps to) irritating and you may even perceive that it’s outside forces causing your missteps.
In synastry, an opposition has a similar effect. In fact, it’s kind of crazy making because it causes a one foot in, one foot out (hot and cold effect) with the object of your affection or dejection.
An opposition is imbalanced, like the inconjunction, but unlike the quincunx, the instability of an opposition can last much longer and there seems to be a much harder ability to or less interest to harmonize differences ( a real blind-spot!).
Where do you have oppositions in your chart?
That’s where you are out-of-focus and have great difficulty seeing the whole picture.
So in synastry, an opposition basically means that the celestial objects and angles that form that aspect basically don’t see eye-to-eye and the people involved struggle in a tug-o-war to get the other person to see their point of view. It’s very Aries (Mars)-Libra (Venus).
Some say this is hot. And if the right celestial objects are involved, it IS hot (in the exciting way) but how often and long do you want to burn?! If Mars is control, the relationship or “planetary themes” will burn out faster then you can say FLY or is that FIGHT. Of course, if you’ve got Saturn in the mix, you’re going to be forced to fry until you figure out what karmic mess you’ve both involved yourself in.
But hey, why not beat the red planet with a softer planet? Lets bring Venus in.
One of the best ways to harmonize this aspect is for ALL people involved in the synastry to: Compromise, and extend the olive branch and be interested in discovering what’s on the other side.
BUT if only one person does that, the other (the partner) will surely be dissatisfied. Because when it comes to Libra, there must be a mirror effect occurring for the love and fairness of Venus to shine through.
Now before we get too smitten with Venus, in the dance of the opposition, Mars is still quite necessary as he keeps it real and reminds that individual needs are still important. And Venus can be too soft and then you may end up with apathy and nothingness for fear of the somethingness (intended spelling mistake) you may not want.
So we can not ever really have Mars (activity) without Venus (receptivity), and vice versa, unless we want to eventually land into a funk. Afterall, Earth is situated between the two.
That means that Venus doesn’t get her way, nor does Mars BUT they can both get their needs met and that’s what you’ll want to achieve in an opposition, within synastry.
Alright, I REALLY need to get out of this Astrogasm blog for awhile and back into VirgoVault. It’s just that it seems to take so much more ‘time’ to write an article over there because after I write my article, I read up on what others say, give them a shout-out, find some groovy picture, organize the article, etc. etc. It takes a long time to write one of those beasts. LOL But I see I keep writing long winded articles on here and this blog was intended for short quips. Mon dieu! ;-)
As a strongly psychological, and psychic person — one of the worsts transits for me is Moon Square Chiron.
I believe we all get it at some point because the Moon cycle is frequent and at some point the Moon will land long enough on your Chiron for you to experience it.
It’s been said it lasts “only half a day” but I’ve been getting it for a couple of days. O-o
Usually I experience a psychological assault of some sort (which I don’t believe is on purpose) and then I lash out. I don’t feel good and neither does the person or people of my wrath. Astro.com labels this transit Attention, Children!
If you have this aspect, how do you deal with it? I can’t imagine living with this day after day. My Moon doesn’t even aspect Chiron.
Have you learned to bury the pain and hurt? Have you learned to shut down from people who abuse and wound you (especially if they’re not aware they’re doing it)? Have you had long-term psychological therapy to deal with your environment? Do you find yourself inadvertently wounding others due to emotional sensitivity?
At this time you have to deal with your own hurt feelings – either you are reminded of old wounds by some incident, or a sore point is disturbed again. Maybe you feel a little weak and are conscious of a certain aversion to handling the usual everyday interchanges – a feeling as if you were coming down with flu. If you now have the need to be alone, then that is what you should really do. If you make too many demands on yourself or if you are not left in peace, you may become hurtful to others – for example, your children if you are a parent – as a result of a certain indifference. Fortunately, this influence lasts at most half a day. Astro.com
Saturn Sesquisquare Uranus: Not feeling or being grounded. Needing help and support to gain a solid and worldly perspective. Inciting an overthrow, of the establishment, with no substance. Sudden electrical problems are fixed by traditional (even, ancient) methods.
Learn more about sesquiquadrates / sesquares on my three part series over at VirgoVault blog.
Q: Do you use the same orbs for aspects with asteroids as you do with planets?
Jeffrey: This is something I am still observing and correlating, and have only been dealing with the asteroids myself for maybe four or five years so have not really come to firm conclusions as the the orbs. To this point I am seeing that maybe 5 to 6 degrees relative to major aspects seems to apply… Jeffrey Wolf Greene
[February 19, 2002]
The orbs simply correlate to how long a person has been working on any given issue, i.e. ten degree relative to a square would mean that this would be the first lifetime for a person to work on whatever the two planets/archetypes/dynamics are. Conversely, for example, those same two planets could be in a 6 degree orb relative to the square, and this then suggests, in evolutionary terms, that the person has already been working on those evolutionary issues prior to the current life for at least several lifetimes. As such it is not ‘new’ to the person, there would be previous experience, and thus the orientation, and behavior, would be different than the person who had the ten degree orb. — Jeffrey Wolf Greene
[March 22, 2002]
Makes sense! It corroborates (in an odd and reversed way) my theory that the longer you’re with someone (synastry) the more a wide orb is felt. Orbs are ‘time based’ (maybe even, ‘knowledge based’), I believe. Time and knowledge closes the gap.
So when reading the charts of long-term couples, use (and notice) a wide orb or you’ll miss out on important themes the couple has, is, and will work through.
Think of it like this: When they first met, they didn’t know certain things about each other. As time goes on, they find stuff out. That’s the wide orb.
The same goes for you, and your natal chart. The more self-developed and connected you are to your stuff, the deeper you can go with a wider orb and the complete suite of harmonics.
Want to feel content? Look to the sign that Uranus is in.
My Uranus is in Libra. I need harmony, partnership, beauty, sweetness, delightful conversation, love, art, music, and balance to feel content.
If I have this, I 1) sleep like a baby, and 2) I smile a lot.
I generally feel very comfortable, yet intellectually stimulated, around Libra Sun’s because they don’t upset me. In fact Libra’s have a calming effect upon me.
This is also why having a Mercury-Venus contact with someone, in syanstry, is VERY important to me whereas it might not be as important for you to have. I need that because I have strong Mercury-Venus in my chart and I want, like, and need to speak my truth but, in harmony. However, with Mars in the 7th and on the 3rd, it’s a challenge with most people. So a Venus person, who is Mercurial (preferably Virgo), cancels that trouble out!
But of course, it’s not really as simple as that. There are so many moving parts in a chart. However, this is how I begin to personalize your natal chart when I read it. There’s no blog post or report that can currently do this.
So back on track — this is one reason why it’s important to have a harmonious connection between your Sun and someone else’s Uranus and vice versa. If it’s disharmonious, it causes discontent. In that vein, this also means that if you have a disharmonious Sun-Uranus contact natally, you are likely to feel discontent.
And note that (Sun) Leo is Opposite to (Uranus) Aquarius naturally, so there’s already a planetary disharmony (that can be adjusted).
Another Uranus-sign delineation?
Uranus Scorpio may need sex, secret investigations, power (em), control (self), and tarot reading (for examples) to find contentment.
What’s your Uranus in and what do you need to feel content?
What rises before the Sun, in the natal chart, shows an emphasis of experience, excess, or combustion.
What rises before your Sun?
Having or had an astrogasm today?!
Mine? Well, I got to thinking: Why am I suddenly (what it seems like) so interested in art as a career? Then I thought to myself: Check your progressions! And sure enough, My progressed Venus is now Conjunct my natal MC. It’s currently applying at 1°21
Natally, I have Sun Semi-Square Venus, Venus Septile AC, and Venus Semi-square MC and the rest of my Venus contacts are Conjunct, Sextile, or Trine. The only planet not aspected to Venus natally, is Mercury.
After researching some art schools, I’m actually thinking of signing up to a special portrait course and then selling small sized portraits (5×7) packaged in keepsake containers, and focused on long-distance lovers.
I’d still like to get a degree in art history, and curation leading to the ability to buy and write about art. And I’d like to get a minor in psychology.
When I first wrote about changing directions from psychology to art back in September 2011, at that time, the orb was at 1°49.
I took a guess as to when it would be at 0° and I figured it would be about 2 years from now and on or around the day I originally wrote (September 16, 2011) about my new (or rather, conscious) interest. And on that day, it’ll be 0°11!! And that’s not all, transiting North Node will be conjunct my natal Neptune in the 10th on September 16th, 2012! And what’s also cool is that transiting Venus will conjunct my natal Sun two days later!
But December 8, 2013 is the BIG Day, when that aspect will be exact!
8 means power, wealth, and health and the whole day delineates to an 8! Jackpot. :P
I predict I’ll make my switch to an art career (while retaining all my occult, metaphysical goodness) over the next few years with a potentially very rewarding Christmas 2013, God Willing! :-)
During this time, I’ll also have…
Progressed Sun Conjunct Natal Venus
Progressed Mars Sextile Natal MC
Progressed Jupiter conjunct Natal MC Applying
Progressed Venus Sextile Ascendant
Progressed AC Trine Natal AC
But I’ll also have…
Natal Sun Square Progressed Venus
Natal Venus Square Progressed MC
It won’t be an easy ride but it’ll hopefully be a rewarding one to overcome! Natal Sun Trine Midheaven
* I’ve only mentioned what I don’t have in my natal chart and that has some significance to this pursuit.
Progressions are a great way to see what and when something is bubbling under the natal surface.
Everything in your future, is already here today.
Someone once called me intellectually dominating. When I think of that, I think of Mercury Conjunct Pluto, Pluto in or on the 3rd or 9th houses.
I don’t have any of that but I do have Mars on the 3rd house and Mercury in the 8th (Mercury Conjunct Pluto) so there’s a touch of that, for sure.
However, as much as I’m Saturnian, the most aspected planet for me is Venus and she’s aspected pretty well. She wants harmony, balance, and sweet nothings.
Mind you, the only planet she doesn’t aspect is Mercury! :P So I wasn’t born to have smooth conversations with others.
I’m pretty sure I was born to challenge judgmental, closed thoughts, and opinions. And to shake up beliefs (Jupiter Conjunct Uranus and Uranus Conjunct Pluto, by house analysis).
Here’s the thing: I imagine I come off as intellectually dominating when the other person is asserting themselves forcefully (aka arrogance) or presenting the material as a matter-of-fact about a topic they seem not to have researched or know well. If they were Venusian, in their approach, it’s unlikely I’d pull the Mercury-Mars-Pluto card.
While I respect the thoughts and opinions of others, I will often fearlessly assert my thoughts on a subject and yes, I’ll smack you down in a debate if you go there with me, I’m up for it, or I’m not injecting enough Venus into my day.
So yes, I’m smart and yes, I’ll enter into debate about things I know or have experienced so I’m not to be underestimated. And that can be frustrating for someone who seeks a lesser mind. O-o But I’ll open my ears to what I don’t know and welcome new input.
Funnily enough, the person who said I was this way has Mars in their third (Mercury Conjunct Mars), Uranus on the cusp (Mars Conjunct Uranus), and Saturn Leo in the 9th (Sun Conjunct Saturn) and my Sun and Mars is in Leo! Um…. Projection and suppression anyone?! :P
I <3 astrology. Logic, at its best!
As a side note, you’ll find many writers, and communicators (who have a stranglehold on information in their industry) have prominent Mercury-Mars-Pluto configurations. That’s because if anyone comes in with new material that goes against or doesn’t support what they’ve said, they’ll try to smack that person down.
Very cool transit finder and multiple delineation of your transits in 2012: www.thefutureminders.com
Venus-Pluto: Venus Conjunct Pluto, Venus Opposition Pluto and Love, Beauty, Money.
Like Venus Scorpio, Pluto Libra / Taurus, Venus in the 8th
Venus Conjunct Pluto has the ability to be sinister or scintillating. Venus Opposition Pluto tends to veer towards being sinister because it seesaws from sweet love to possessive love, extremely and the native hides what is happening and when.
The conjunction creates the desire to achieve a powerful and deep love and artistic works that can be exceptionally transformational or horribly destructive and hateful.
Whereas the opposition, if the native hasn’t healed its oppositional nature, can lean towards being quite dangerous — possibly leading to sociopathic tendencies when and if threatened or betrayed (perceived or real). Manipulation, control, and power subtly mixed with love, money, and beauty can be initially intoxicating. However, as time passes by it’s often toxic.
Venus-Pluto has the ability to manipulate their appearance. They can be like snake charmers in that what you see may not be what is. They may also command a lot of financial power and authority and can make fabulous financial advisers, accountants, negotiators, and stock brokers. They can also make controversial artists.
As usual, I have scratched the surface of this aspect. There are many ways for it to manifest. I welcome additional insights, comments, thoughts, and links for and against. I’ve provided a limited manifestation of these aspects in this blog and will continue to provide insights as time goes on.
And it’s also important to remember that one aspect does not make the whole person. It’s important to look for other signs (aspects, houses, etc.) that say the same thing and then that needs to be weighed against items that can cancel out, dull, or brighten it.
This is an excellent article about Venus-Pluto natives.
Fallen – Blank & Jones (Delerium & Rani)
Do you remember me
I’m just a shadow now
This is where I used to be
Right here beside you
Sometimes I call your name
High on a summer breeze
What I would give,
To feel the sunlight on my face
What I would give,
To be lost in your embrace
I’ve fallen from a distant star
Came back, compelled because I love
I’m caught between two different worlds
I long for one more night on earth
Do you believe in dreams
That’s how I found you
But I can’t be revealed
Till you take a leap of faith
What I would give,
To feel the sunlight on my face
What I would give,
To be lost in your embrace
I’ve fallen from a distant star
Came back, compelled because I love
I’m caught between two different worlds
I long for one more night on earth)
Song Meaning in synastry or natal: Venus Opposition North Node
Also… Venus in the 4th, 8th, and/or 12th (the natural water houses).
Venus Square Saturn on Rejection
The native can feel that their love, affection, financial portfolio, artistry, and/or beauty are being rejected and that very well may be the case.
Most of us encounter rejection — not being able to play our music loud at 1am, not getting that loan we wanted, or not being someone else’s type. But it’s how the Venus Square Saturn native deals with normal rejection that sets them apart.
What is rejection anyway? Are you being rejected in whole or in part? Why is the person rejecting something you do, say, or offer? Is it personal?
We all have the right to reject what we don’t like, what doesn’t resonate with us, what doesn’t make us happy, etc. even if we do not get our wishes fulfilled — even Venus Square Saturn natives.
The Venus Sq. Saturn native can do well with not taking rejection personally and to remember that they too reject things, and parts. And it may be their own strong and harsh rejections that makes them acutely aware and sensitive when it comes time for an aspect in themselves to get rejected.
Ve 90° Sa may also want to find out why something is being rejected and consider whether that is something they are willing to change or accept it’s just how they are and they need to find that loan, or love elsewhere.
And a square has the opportunity to become a supercharged trine!!
by the way, I’m Venus Trine Saturn and I recently got rejected for an art installation. My response: Meh… and NEXT… hey people, look at my artwork. :) Ha!
My stuff isn’t for everyone and I’m sure they have a good reason why they rejected my proposal. And maybe they made the wrong decision but it’s a mute point because they prefer one thing over another and that’s just life. Onwards and upwards!! <3
So my suggestion is to strive for my attitude when it comes to rejection, and use the square energy (while turning your square into a supercharged trine) to get you closer to your best match.
Astrology Play: Read your chart as if everything in it is for everyone else. For example, I have Moon in the 8th. I open up the psychic and psychological pathways in others to discover.
Saturn in the 4th gives others a stable and secure home base, grounds others in reality and responsibility in home life. Neptune in the 10th gives people the ability to make me up, to provide magical and spiritual experiences for others. My Jupiter in the 9th Trine North Node in the 2nd provides an expansive and abundant learning experience for others to help them actualize their full potential. With North Node in the 2nd house, I’m also able to help others get paid doing ‘psychic’, ‘spiritual’, ‘dream’, or ‘art’ work since I had the same struggle. Mars Square Midheaven challenges others to get off their behind and fight for their rights and their dreams.
What have you discovered? What’s your niche? What’s your special offering to the world, for your clients, friends. or lovers?
Don’t know your correct time of birth, without a doubt?
In Canada, contact the hospital’s health records department where you were born.
In US, order your “record of birth” long form (not all cities have it recorded on there) from the state department of vital statistics or you may want to use VitalChek. American Astrologer, Steven Forrest has a great article on how to order this. Fees currently range from $10 – $30.
Overseas? Check with the hospital you were born at and/or the attending physician or you can try VitalChek International.
My time of birth was off a bit from the baby record my Mom filled out in a scrap book she made up for me. As an astrologer it made the world of difference to know my exact time of birth. And it will make a world of difference for you if you are deeply interested in completely fulfilling your life with clarity.
For example, meaningful fixed stars and asteroids use a much tighter orb so it’s very important to have your exact time of birth when using these.
In Toronto, it can currently cost between $30-$60 to get your time of birth from the hospital. Make sure they know you only want the time of birth or they will charge you a lot more. If you are not sure about which hospital you were born at, order the long form birth certificate. In the province of Ontario, it can be ordered online. Your time of birth will not show on the long form birth certificate like it often does in the United States.
If you have any questions or comments about getting your time of birth, comment here.
Without an accurate time of birth time (or any time of birth), a chart can still be read — just not with complete accuracy and with much less detail.
It’s also important to know exactly where you were born, location wise. Some cities are now amalgamated. Some cities changed names, etc. For example, the exact location where I was born is no longer seen on a map but it makes a difference in the chart. To be even more accurate, you’ll want to know the exact spot where you were born, if you can (latitude and longitude).
A birth chart rectification can also been done by astrologers. I’m generally within an hour of your time of birth and I do not specialize in birth chart rectification services.
Sudden, exciting thoughts. Thinking about exciting things. Communicating ideas and thoughts about inventions. Idea generator. Mental breakthroughs. Change of thought. Innovative new ways of approaching a subject, learning style, or lesson. Communicating in an electric way. Genius. Epiphanies. Likes to talk about technology, inventions, difference, working in a new way.
Sudden headaches. On the tip of your tongue. Unable to figure out how to make something different. Surprisingly hostile debating.
How to get rid of bad natal aspects? Synastry is one answer.
Sometimes we meet another and we find the same negative aspect in synastry. This generally means we haven’t worked out that issue yet and this person is here, as our soulmate, to hammer it out.
But lets say you’re tired of going down the ‘soul-mate’ road and you just want to have a joy ride… then not having your nasty bits duplicated in synastry, will help you feel more joy.
Awesome synastry can cancel out your natal problems. In this case, you’ll want to know what you don’t want duplicated and set about not attracting your kind of person.
Do keep in mind that you’ll want to learn from the relationship, should it ever end, so that you can be healed by it rather than using it as a crutch!
I went crazy – absolutely crazy when Robin died. The only thing I could think of to do was try to take the load off Kim by marrying him and helping raise their son.
I think in her heart Robin knew I would go after Kim,” Stevie continues. “I had known her for 20 years and him for five, and I felt this baby belonged to me almost as much as it did to them.
After 3-8 months of being married, they had a divorce. With that, at the time of the article she had not seen Matthew again. I don’t know if she’s seem him since.
To me, this backs up my thought that if she did have a child it’d probably be a boy and he would die. Essentially that is what happened.
Having children, being married, and all the other Saturnian trappings of earth isn’t for everyone. It’s especially difficult for women who have a drive that mimics the style of men (ie Sun Square Mars). With her Saturn Conjunct Pluto in the 5th, it seems to say quite literally “death of social activity and the restrictions that come with it”. Social activity such as marriage, having children, etc.
Stevie Nicks Natal Chart
In a 1989 interview, Stevie gave personal insight as to the meaning of Rooms on Fire:
Rooms on Fire is about a girl who goes through a life like I have gone through, where she finally accepts the idea that there never will be those other things in her life. She will never be married, she will never have children, she will never do those [that] part of life.
We all have our own path, our own karma. Children, spouses, and the traditional trappings isn’t for everyone. I’m just thoroughly impressed that Stevie Nicks knew this or got an astrology consultation to make her aware of it — maybe she even gave herself an astrology consultation.
No children is indicated by Saturn and Pluto in her 5th house but it’s made more difficult by being conjunct. Leo is also one of the barren signs. You would think that wouldn’t be the case since Leo is playful and child-like but that’s exactly why Leo on the 5th house cusp can cause barrenness. That placement suggests the native is a child themselves and can not be responsible. And any child she would have had (probably a boy) would quite possibly have died.
In regards to lack of marriage, in her romance and dating house (the progression from dating to marriage) she more than likely had destructive romances that tested her will (Mars Conjunct Pluto). In her 8th house (House of Domination) she has South Node Conjunct Chiron (I use wide orbs). Marriage wounded her in a past life and continues to wound her. Neptune (which is square her Venus) is near this house cusp (the 6th house, House of Submission) and it’s here where she would attract men of addiction, fantasy, and illusion. In fact, she would likely have this as part of her nature as well — perhaps wanting to be Cinderella and finding her Prince but no mere mortal man could ever be a true fairytale Prince. With the house cusp having the sign in Libra, we have a house that is ruled by Venus and Juno. Any committed partnership could be met with mind games and mental abuse.
She did marry but it was for convenience and surrounding a long time chronic illness of her friend (she married her friend’s widow) – see South Node Conjunct Chiron in the 8th. Perhaps it was a karmic debt repaid..